Tests – · none yet Owners 65 · 17 reviews
Firestone Winterforce 2 UV vs General Grabber HTS60 — Compared
Relative Score (0–100): the weighted average of the categories below, each 60% road tests and 40% owner reviews (comfort 40/60). Based on 0 + 1 road tests and 17 + 493 owner reviews. How we score
Grabber HTS60 is ahead, 76–66
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Tests – · 1 test Owners 80 · 493 reviews
Best test result: #3 of 13 in 2022 Consumer Reports All Season Truck Tires (tested tread life (miles))
“Hey guys, Turns out there's a puncture in one of my general grabbers and the shop is asking that I change all 4 at this point... When came the time to look at new tires, they advised me that these tires are simply Gerneral Grabber HTS60 tires...indicating that they aren't necessarily made different from any regular grabbers they would put on an ice truck. Can anybody confirm this? If so, has anybody tried a different all-season tire like the Michelin Defender LTX by any chance? Wondering if we'd be getting a huge hit in range... Thanks!”
Category by category
Relative Score per category, 0–100. Open “Why this score” for the tests and owner ratings behind it.
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65
Dry
Grabber HTS60 +1176Why this score
Source Winterforce 2 UV Grabber HTS60 Professional tests (TWG score) ≈ 66 (est.) ≈ 73 (est.) Reviews found online 64 80 Winterforce 2 UV: 60% × 66.2 (est.) + 40% × 63.6 = 65
Grabber HTS60: 60% × 73 (est.) + 40% × 80.3 = 76
No road tests of dry for Winterforce 2 UV. The test half is estimated from the owner ratings, as far as owners and testers agree (correlation 0.41).
No road tests of dry for Grabber HTS60. The test half is estimated from the owner ratings, as far as owners and testers agree (correlation 0.41).
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70
Wet
Grabber HTS60 +878Why this score
Source Winterforce 2 UV Grabber HTS60 Professional tests (TWG score) ≈ 70 (est.) ≈ 76 (est.) Reviews found online 70 81 Winterforce 2 UV: 60% × 70.4 (est.) + 40% × 70.1 = 70
Grabber HTS60: 60% × 76.4 (est.) + 40% × 81.2 = 78
No road tests of wet for Winterforce 2 UV. The test half is estimated from the owner ratings, as far as owners and testers agree (correlation 0.55).
No road tests of wet for Grabber HTS60. The test half is estimated from the owner ratings, as far as owners and testers agree (correlation 0.55).
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72
Snow
Level72Why this score
Source Winterforce 2 UV Grabber HTS60 Professional tests (TWG score) ≈ 71 (est.) ≈ 71 (est.) Reviews found online 73 72 Winterforce 2 UV: 60% × 71.2 (est.) + 40% × 72.8 = 72
Grabber HTS60: 60% × 71.1 (est.) + 40% × 72.3 = 72
No road tests of snow for Winterforce 2 UV. The test half is estimated from the owner ratings, as far as owners and testers agree (correlation 0.32).
No road tests of snow for Grabber HTS60. The test half is estimated from the owner ratings, as far as owners and testers agree (correlation 0.32).
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61
Comfort
Grabber HTS60 +1677Why this score
Source Winterforce 2 UV Grabber HTS60 Professional tests (TWG score) ≈ 66 (est.) ≈ 71 (est.) Reviews found online 57 81 Winterforce 2 UV: 40% × 66.3 (est.) + 60% × 57.1 = 61
Grabber HTS60: 40% × 71 (est.) + 60% × 80.5 = 77
No road tests of comfort for Winterforce 2 UV. The test half is estimated from the owner ratings, as far as owners and testers agree (correlation 0.20).
No road tests of comfort for Grabber HTS60. The test half is estimated from the owner ratings, as far as owners and testers agree (correlation 0.20).
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61
Noise
Grabber HTS60 +1273Why this score
Source Winterforce 2 UV Grabber HTS60 Professional tests (TWG score) ≈ 66 (est.) ≈ 66 (est.) Reviews found online 54 83 Winterforce 2 UV: 60% × 66.4 (est.) + 40% × 54 = 61
Grabber HTS60: 60% × 66.4 (est.) + 40% × 83.4 = 73
No road tests of noise for Winterforce 2 UV or Grabber HTS60. The test half is the tested tires’ average (66): owners’ noise ratings barely follow the road tests.
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62
Treadwear
Grabber HTS60 +1577Why this score
Source Winterforce 2 UV Grabber HTS60 Professional tests (TWG score) · – / 1 tests ≈ 64 (est.) 74 Reviews found online 59 83 Winterforce 2 UV: 60% × 63.7 (est.) + 40% × 58.6 = 62
Grabber HTS60: 60% × 73.7 + 40% × 82.9 = 77
No road tests of treadwear for Winterforce 2 UV. The test half is estimated from the owner ratings, as far as owners and testers agree (correlation 0.36).
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Handling (owners)
No comparison78Why this score
Source Winterforce 2 UV Grabber HTS60 Reviews found online – 78
Scores at a glance
| Category | Firestone Winterforce 2 UV | General Grabber HTS60 |
|---|---|---|
| Relative Score | 66 | 76 |
| Dry | 65 | 76 |
| Wet | 70 | 78 |
| Snow | 72 | 72 |
| Comfort | 61 | 77 |
| Noise | 61 | 73 |
| Treadwear | 62 | 77 |
| Handling (owners) | – | 78 |
Higher is better. The Relative Score follows your weights below; category scores do not change.
Weight the categories that matter to you
Wet grip starts at “Important”. Treadwear starts at “Neutral” here: road tests measured it for at most one of the two tires, so it rests on owner reviews. Move the sliders and the scores update instantly.
Only one of the two tires has a score here, so this weight changes nothing in the head-to-head.
Winterforce 2 UV
Grabber HTS60
Only categories both tires have data for count toward the headline score.
The professional test results behind the scores
Per discipline: the average % of the best tire over every test both tires were in, and how many of those tests each one won. “Different tests” rows compare results from separate tests.
| Discipline | Category | Winterforce 2 UV | Grabber HTS60 | Δ | Head-to-head |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Also published by the testers (not in the score) | |||||
| Overall Ranking | Overall | #8/8 2022 Consumer Reports Winter/Snow Truck/SUV Tires | #2/13 2022 Consumer Reports All Season Truck Tires | – | Different tests |
Pros, cons & observations
Themes extracted from owner reviews found online — not the opinion of TireWheelGuide.
Tire A Winterforce 2 UV
Pros
- Strong snow traction: one 4WD owner reported no slipping in 8 inches of snow, and an Explorer owner said it never needed 4x4 after 47 inches of snow in a week
- Good value for the money: reviewers repeatedly describe it as a great winter tire for the price, and one calls it the best balance of price and longevity
- Good wet-weather performance reported by some, including no hydroplaning on puddles and 'great all around' traction
Cons
- Increased road noise is mentioned by some reviewers, attributed to the aggressive winter tread, though others describe noise as very low
- Reduced wet-weather starting traction: one reviewer reports wheelspin when pulling away from a red light in the rain
- Fast wear if used in warm weather: one reviewer who ran them in summer notes this is not recommended and that they wear quickly
Tire B Grabber HTS60
Pros
- Smooth and quiet highway ride quality
- Great value and affordable price point compared to premium brands
- Reliable all-season traction in wet, dry, and light winter conditions
Cons
- Occasional reports of minor road noise or hum at higher speeds
- Potential manufacturing inconsistencies, such as tires being out-of-round
- Aggressive tread pattern can occasionally cause slight slippage on loose dirt or debris when taking off
What real owners are saying
From Reddit, forums and review threads. Not part of our score
Firestone Winterforce 2 UV
We haven't collected enough community discussion about this tire yet.
General Grabber HTS60
Community opinion of the General Grabber HTS 60 is largely positive, with owners highlighting its low price, quiet road manners, and strong fuel and electric efficiency compared to all-terrain alternatives. While widely praised as an affordable highway tire capable of light towing, some users note concerns regarding winter grip, wet hydroplaning at half tread, and isolated balance or sidewall defect issues.
“Just noticed on one of the pics I took of the tire that the factory added about 10lbs of lead to balance it. Seems like they could have done a better job of that... I see the colored dot on the tire and got wondering what that meant. Found this tidbit of info out there: Quote: Where Are the Paint Dots Placed? Quote: The yellow dots identify where a tire weighs the least — the lightest point on a tire. The yellow dot should be lined up and directly next to the valve stem, which is the wheel’s heaviest point. The red dots identify where the tire is flattest — the lowest point on a tire. The red dot should be directly across from the highest point of the wheel, which is usually indicated by a colored dot or a notch on the wheel. If a tire has a yellow and red dot, the red dot takes precedence when balancing the tire. Wonder if the factory people bother to do that correctly?”
“The General Grabber HTS60 is the best value tire currently available for efficiency. While its treadwear is not class-leading, the tire is backed by a mileage warranty, helping offset replacement costs and making its lifetime cost of ownership very attractive. More importantly, numerous Rivian owner reports indicate the HTS60 delivers efficiency that is comparable to, and in some cases exceeds, the OEM 21-inch road tire while significantly outperforming the OEM 20-inch all-terrain tire. When combined with its low purchase price, light weight, quiet ride, and strong on-road manners, the HTS60 stands out as one of the lowest-cost options for achieving near-maximum efficiency.”
“New shoes today !! General Grabber HTS60 275/55/R20 117T Very good rated and $400 cheaper than the Michelins I wanted. Discount Tire price matched Sams Club since they were 2 weeks out.”
Based on 38 community posts
Specs side by side
| Attribute | A · Firestone Winterforce 2 UV | B · General Grabber HTS60 |
|---|---|---|
| Category | Winter | All Season |
| Vehicle type | SUV and 4x4 | SUV and 4x4 |
| Sizes available | 30 | 39 |
| Rim diameters | 15″ – 18″ | 15″ – 22″ |
| Tread depth | 12/32″ | 10 - 14/32″ |
| UTQG | — | 620 - 680 A A - B |
| Sidewall | Blackwall | Black Side Wall - Raised Outline White Lettering |
| Max pressure | 44 psi | 44 - 80 psi |
| Sizes in common | 15 | 15 |
Which one should you actually buy?
Firestone Winterforce 2 UV
General Grabber HTS60
Winner: General Grabber HTS60 — better comfort, treadwear and noise. It leads or ties in every category we score. Firestone Winterforce 2 UV rests on little evidence so far (0 tests, 17 reviews), so read this result as provisional.
General Grabber HTS60 scores 77 vs 61 on comfort.
General Grabber HTS60 scores 77 vs 62 on treadwear.
General Grabber HTS60 scores 73 vs 61 on noise.
General Grabber HTS60 scores 76 vs 65 on dry.
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Winterforce 2 UV or Grabber HTS60?
Which is better in the wet, Winterforce 2 UV or Grabber HTS60?
General Grabber HTS60, 78 vs 70 on our wet score.
Which grips better on dry roads, Winterforce 2 UV or Grabber HTS60?
General Grabber HTS60, 76 vs 65 on our dry score.
Which is better in snow, Winterforce 2 UV or Grabber HTS60?
Neither, by our numbers: 72 vs 72 on the snow score, within 3 points.
Which is quieter, Winterforce 2 UV or Grabber HTS60?
General Grabber HTS60, 73 vs 61 on our noise score.
Which is more comfortable, Winterforce 2 UV or Grabber HTS60?
General Grabber HTS60, 77 vs 61 on our comfort score.
Which lasts longer, Winterforce 2 UV or Grabber HTS60?
General Grabber HTS60, 77 vs 62 on our treadwear score.
How do we compare tires?
Every category score blends two independent signals. 60% comes from professional tire tests (braking distances, lap times, noise measurements), each result compared with every other tire in the same test and newer tests counting more. 40% comes from owner reviews found online, adjusted for how generously each site rates. Both use one scale: the average tested tire gets 70, the best 100. When a tire has only one of the two, the missing half is estimated from the other and the score stays closer to average; with no road test and fewer than five owner reviews it gets no score yet.
Handling is the exception: road tests measure it inside the dry and wet scores, so its own row comes from owner ratings only and starts as less important.
Community buzz from Reddit and forums is shown for context only — it never changes the score. Full methodology