Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Toyo Proxes TR1 — Compared

“I basically always ran Michelins on the BMWs I had. Pilot Super Sport on the E91 335d (which unexpectedly did really well wrt longevity with 600nm+ and a heavy foot) and now PS4 ZP (so the runflat type) on my 320hp F31 330d. They are just really really good. Pretty pricey though.”

“Left my driveway with an outside temp of 36°F this morning and I'm on PS4's. Grip levels were fine, no one died. Although I do take corners 5ish mph slower than I normally would for the first few miles, or the whole drive if there's moisture on the road. I've found that what changes the most as the PS4 gets near and slightly below its 40°F "limit" is that its breakaway characteristics become a lot uglier. Instead of that gradual slip-to-slide progression, they start feeling more and more like they just let go and refuse to grip back up for what feels like an eternity. Drive within the available grip levels though and it's essentially a non-issue. Remember to leave extra braking distance when following cars in these temps though.”

“Have you checked to see if your wheels would accommodate a 215 tyre? Might be worth investigating. Other than that, Goodyear Eagle f1 asymmetric I would say have just as good dry performance as a PS4. They're minutely less grippy in the wet, but not noticeably so. They're also a lot quieter and a lot cheaper. I've run both PS4 and the Eagles on track, and now the Eagles are my go-to.”

“Tr1 is a solid choice for relatively cheap grip They do suffer in the cold and wet but if it's a summer car that shouldn't be an issue”

“I had these exact tyres on my ep3, and they were brilliant compared what the car came with from factory. I can’t remember what they were, but for me , they just didn’t feel right…when I went t for these TR1’s , it felt like cars dynamics completely changed for the better. But my driving was mainly city/motorways and sometimes b-roads. And now I’m reminiscing about my type-r days…”

“Alla fine cosa hai preso? su ZC31S con quella misura sono un pochino deluso dalle TR1 spalla troppo morbida la cosa buffa è che più le gonfiavo e più si amplificava il difetto per guida al limite diventano imprecise ma hanno davvero un sacco di grip se avessero la spalla più rigida best buy!”