Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta — Compared

“I basically always ran Michelins on the BMWs I had. Pilot Super Sport on the E91 335d (which unexpectedly did really well wrt longevity with 600nm+ and a heavy foot) and now PS4 ZP (so the runflat type) on my 320hp F31 330d. They are just really really good. Pretty pricey though.”

“I ran the stock 17" Ecopia's on my Ecosport for about 45k km. Luckily didn't face any side wall cuts. Overall it was a average tyre with decent grip levels - good grip without any squealing when driving up a ghat road quite enthusiastically even at the fag end of it's life. Ride quality was pretty bad and the smallest of ruts would result in a thud and being low profile amplified it even more. The tyres developed these cracks along the shoulder around the 35-40k mark which should not have happened due to which I changed them at 45k even though there was probably enough thread for about 5-10k km more. Moved to the Michelin PS4 now and the difference is night and day!”

“Quote: Originally Posted by ua549 In over 55 years of driving I've never gotten more than 20k miles on a set of tires. Michelin Pilot Sport is the worst at 6k miles twice in a row with free factory replacements though I've gotten 18k miles on Michelin AS3 tires once or twice. Dunlop Sport is second at 15k miles. Overall Pirelli Cinturato P7 are the longest wearing tires I've owned over the years at 20k miles consistently. I swap out run flat tires if they come on a new car. I believe that heat is a major cause of tire wear. Even after a 2 mile trip @ 35 mph the tires on my E300 register about 120°F. Cold they are between 80°F and 85°F. In the dead of winter they are 5° colder. The OEM tires on my 5 year old '18 E300 got 12k miles. The car has 20k miles on it now and the P7 tires are about 40% worn. My experience with Summer tires is 15 to 18k max. The only Summer tires that I have owned that lasted more than 20 were the Pilot Sport PS4...which BTW is one of their marketing highlights, longer tread wear...though still shorter than all seasons which normally are rated for 30k or more.”

“I just had a set of Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta put on. Initial thoughts... I got them in 275/40/20 for the fronts and 315/35/20 for the rears. They fit the wheels perfectly. I immediately noticed a much softer ride. Sport Mode now feels like Tour Mode, maybe even softer. I DD my ZL1 so cold weather performance is very important. Temps were near 40°F and they stayed quite grippy. This is a huge improvement over the stock Goodyear's. Initial turn in response is good. I had the opportunity to push them on an off ramp and they felt a little mushy when pushed and didn't seem to want to exceed .75g I had a set of these on a previous car (2004 ZO6) and expect great wet weather performance. I will update this post once I get some more miles on them.”

“Quote: Originally Posted by Untertürkheim Sorry, but I must disagree. I found these tires to be very bad in the rain, I ended up replacing them very early for that reason alone. That's odd. The Ultrac Sessanta? The Vreds were much better than the Conti 2 I had on my Bimmer. I live in LA, but in Pacific Palisades where we get dumps of rain often in the winter. No hydroplaning, great feeling of stability. On other forums, the Vreds are normally considered good in the wet. btw, there are 20 pages about this tire on the Corvette forum here: Here's just one quote on that long thread: "As for the RAIN.. They are insane on the rain.. no slipping, or gliding, only traction" And another: "Drove through a monsoon in Redding, CA on the way down and no hydroplaining and my buddy following me said the water seeemd to come out behind the car and not spread sideways as you normally see." I had the same experience. So, maybe they just don't work well on a MB(??)”

“Originally Posted by CBR.worm I ran a couple set of the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta tires, they were great - super sticky wet and dry and smooth. Unfortunately, they stopped making them in my size a few years ago. I was very happy with them. I know they are totally different than what you are looking at, but there isn't a lot of info out there (here in the US) about the brand. Is your tire size 235/45-18? They don't make the Sessanta in any size anymore! It is an older, now discontinued line. Vredestein does offer both the Ultrac Satin and Ultrac Vorti in your size 235/45-18”