Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 vs Toyo Proxes Sport — Compared

“New Tires (Michelin Pilot Sport All-Season 4) I know this has been discussed a lot here so I won't go into a ton of detail, but I recently got a '23 GT (DCT, around 30k miles) and the stock tires were so ASS. Decided to grab the ones in the title and it's literally night and day difference. I was getting terrible traction when just barely accelerating w/ stock tires. Now I can basically floor it. Same with braking; felt pretty damn bad before, and so much better now. The ride, in general, also just feels more comfortable (smoother, though I didn't notice a huge sound difference, but I usually have music on anyway). Haven't gotten to really push it on turns or anything yet, but it's definitely a big difference already with the small bit of driving I did after getting them installed. I did also go with 235 over the stock 225.”

“I use these on my F80 M3 competition with the 666M wheels for the winter. I had Continental DWS 06 Plus on my E90 M3. The PSAS4 have stiffer side wall than the DWS06 Plus, so the ride will feel more sporty if that's what you're after. PSAS4 also have slightly more dry pavement grip and tad more steering feel than the DWS. The DWS is a tad bit quieter and softer sidewall. Superior to the PSAS4 in light snow. Dry pavement grip is still amazing. I have 2 sets of 666m wheels for my F80 comp. One set outfitted with Pilot sport all season 4 and the other set outfitted with Pilot sport 4s.”

“Michelin PSAS4 vs Conti DWS06+ Recently did a change-up, went from a set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus (driven 17,000 miles / 27,360 kilometres) to a new set of Michelin Pilot Sport All-Season 4. I drive a VW GTI and live in Southern Oregon with a 75-mile (120-km) roundtrip commute everyday and here are my observations: the Michelins are a touch quieter and dare I say offer a more ‘refined’ ride the Contis felt stiffer (subjective) but has better cornering without a doubt. Ran both sets at 39 psi (269 kPa) for the 225/40-18 size. the Contis definitely brake better under cool rainy conditions (ambient temp was about 13°C) the Contis perform very, very well in snowy conditions but I’ve yet to test out the Michelins in the same environment. I drove the Continentals on more than 10,000 miles of snow just last winter. the Michelins quickly lose grip when I dump the clutch in first gear, compared to the Continentals. The ESC on my GTI turns on more often with the Michelins as well. the Michelins are ever so slightly more fuel efficient but only a 1-3 mpg difference at best, I found Overall, if you’re looking for a more performance-focused (and light snow-biased) UHPAS tire definitely go for the DWS06 Plus. As for me I’m delighted with the PSAS4 overall, but it’s also because I’m highly biased on Michelins as a brand. Read more”

“I have real world experience with the Toyo Proxes Sport AS+. This may be the best all around tire on the planet IMO. I'm old and so I've tried multiple tires in real world conditions as a daily driver with performance in mind. I know every Michelin and Pirelli. I've become an expert on available tires in the USA.. What you will find with This tire: * They are immediately quiet *Resist hydroplaning in big water * Higher than expected dry performance in super hot weather for an AS * Maintain tread pattern to the death and remain quiet. These tires are next level.”

“Quote: Originally Posted by Brian Goodwin I own both the Falken and Toyo Proxes Sport, both in 235/40-17. The Toyo rides better, the Falken goes faster through the turns, and turn-in response is much quicker. I have not bothered to take the Toyo to the track because around our fun canyon roads it is clearly slower and with less grip than the Falken. The Falken feels like a race tire, complete with stiff sidewall support for crisp turn-in, used those for track and autocross over the last few months, including two wins in class at autocross. The Toyo feels like a street tire, much like the Continental ECS, complete with much lower weight because sidewalls are comparatively soft and squishy next to the Falken. If you want a soft daily driver 235/40 and you accept it is a few clicks slower than the Falken, the Toyo is great as a daily driver. But if you expect that Toyo to keep up with the Falken on track days, you will be disappointed. Great feedback, thanks Brian. Wish there were more options in this size! May just stick with the RT660s, especially now with the HKS GT2 on the car”

“Toyo Proxes Sport 2 Really enjoyed these Proxes Sport 2s on my Alpina over the last year - in fact they’re so good I’ve put them on the B3 too! Great value for money. Read more”