Pirelli P Zero vs Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S — Compared

“Impossible to install P Zero Race TLR I have Hollowgram R45 carbon wheels on my road bike and went for Pirelli P Zero TLR 700x30 after reading great reviews. The fact is, they are impossible to install. I tried and had two mechanics try and they said it’s absolutely impossible. The tire is too tight for the wheel and there is absolutely no way of putting it on. The wheel is ETRTO standard compliant and has a 21 mm internal canal. Has anyone had any similar experience? I am quite surprised”

“Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3 tires - An average driver's review This is a quick review for the Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3 . I've got a 2022 P2 with the 20" non performance wheels. Decided to replace my original stock Michelin all season tires with something different as I was looking for a bit of a more comfortable ride. These new Pirellis provide a notably softer ride. Almost feels like I'm driving on the 19" wheels. The tires seem as quiet if not slightly quieter than the stock tires. Only have driven 600 or so miles on them so not sure about the efficiency difference. As far as cornering goes, I haven't pushed them to share any real observations. I'm in the States and ordered them through tirerack. I noticed they had two versions of this tire. I purchased the slightly more expensive version (roughly $1400 for set of 4) as I think it was the latest version. This was in June of 2026. Highly recommend these tires if you've got 20" wheels and want something a bit more comfortable in the all season tire category.”

“2024 J1.1 GTS Sport Turismo on 21" Spyder RS wheels here. Went from Pirelli PZero's to NF1 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5's recently. They don't seem any louder than the PZero's, dry grip seems about the same, as does comfort. Wet grip and performance in cold conditions (I'm in Scotland, UK) over the PZero's is noticeably better. Very little in the way of the Ackerman effect in cold temperatures, compared to the PZero's which made an awful noise and skipped badly when turning at slow speeds, pulling out of junctions. Will see how they do wear rate wise, PZero's had about 2.5 to 3mm left at 16k miles. Anything approaching that on the ASY5's would be good. Unfortunately on the J1.1 on 21"'s the choice is essentially PZero's or ASY5's. Which is disappointing as I had PS4S's and CSC7's on my previous cars (G81 M3 and M340i Touring) and they were fantastic.”

“Quote: Originally Posted by gcurnew I got the Goodyear F1s on my car when delivered and found them surprisingly nice: good grip, quiet, compliant ride. Put PS4Ss on last year and while I'm happy with them, they are a tad noisier than the F1s with a slightly stiffer ride and no apparent difference in grip or handling. I know the Michelins are the "go to" tire and pretty much everyone raves about them...but I'm in the camp that thinks the F1s are an equivalent tire. Having had both, I would have just bought a set of F1 rears (my fronts were only partially worn) rather than a full set of Michelins. I've used Michelin exclusively for the past two decades. My car came with the F1s and was pleasantly surprised. Dare I say better than 4S? Excellent in the wet and dry and they don't seem to get greasy like the 4Ss can when pushed. Still don't know how they wear but unless performance drops off or noise suddenly goes up like with Pirellis, I might buy them again.”

“Quote: Originally Posted by D_H I hated the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S tires. Was not happy with the wear. I wanted a drivable tire, and that's why I got them. They were pricy. Didn't last anywhere near the 30,000 mile range. Lasted just over 15,000 miles. Tire wear was not even, and the performance is a joke. But again, that's not why I got them. Tires always want to slip traction. I'm just going to stick with the stock tires from now on. I was wanting to know what everyone thought about these Atturo AZ850 front and rear tires though. I just put a very lightly used (from a friend) set of Atturo AZ850's in 1LE size on my 2020 2SS (I mounted them on MRR017 1LE Replica Wheels (285/30ZR20 Fronts and 305/30ZR20 Rears)), so far VERY happy with them especially considering the cost... They definitely hook better than my old 275 run flats...”

“I’ll say this. Going from the Pilot Super Sport to the Pilot Sport 4 S of the same size, I’m disappointed in the soft sidewall of the 4 S. This is an 8.5” wide wheel with 235/40/18 tires. The left-right fast slalom action got a bit mushy like the weight transfer was slowed down when I switched to the 4 S. I think a shorter sidewall 4 S would perform better in this way, or the same tire on a 9” wide wheel too. That said, the dry and wet grip is exceptional. To save money, I’d recommend the Continental ExtremeContact Sport.”